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	<title>Commenti a: Caso Notre Dame. Vian: &#8220;Sto coi vescovi Usa ma il discorso di Obama mi è piaciuto&#8221;</title>
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		<title>Di: Summum Bonum &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Douglas W. Kmiec opportunist extraordinaire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Summum Bonum &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Douglas W. Kmiec opportunist extraordinaire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and he has taken obsequiousness to a new level only to be outdone by the present editor of L&#8217;Osservatore Romano, Gian Maria Vian, who, like Kmiec, maintains that Obama is not a pro-abortion president. In fact, both men with [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and he has taken obsequiousness to a new level only to be outdone by the present editor of L&#8217;Osservatore Romano, Gian Maria Vian, who, like Kmiec, maintains that Obama is not a pro-abortion president. In fact, both men with [...]</p>
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		<title>Di: anonimo perplesso</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonimo perplesso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 08:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Memo to Bishops: Most Catholics Aren&#039;t Listening
THIS CATHOLIC&#039;S VIEW
By Thomas J. Reese, S.J.
During the 2008 presidential campaign, there was a steady drumbeat of opposition to Barack Obama from some U.S. Catholic bishops, which only increased after his election. But despite the attention these attacks received in the media and on Internet blogs, polls show that the Catholic people are not listening. 
He has been criticized: 

• for being the most pro-abortion president ever, even though he wants to develop programs that will reduce the number of abortions while keeping it legal under most circumstances (he supports restrictions in the third trimester with an exception for the health of the mother);
• for allowing organizations that do abortions outside the U.S. to receive government funds, even though the funds cannot be used for abortions but only for non-abortion-related activities such as health care and birth control;
• for proposing to revise the Bush regulations dealing with stem cell research, even though the proposed revisions are less radical than many anticipated (no cloning is allowed and only stem cells from IVF embryos that would otherwise be discarded can be used; plus the informed consent rules are tightened);
• for proposing to revise the Bush regulations that allow conscientious objection in health care, even though it is clear from the law that the revised regulations cannot require doctors, nurses or hospitals to perform abortions;
• and for supporting the Freedom of Choice Act, even though everyone in Congress says FOCA is going nowhere (it has not even been introduced in this Congress) and the President has said it is not one of his priorities (which is the equivalent of deep-sixing it).
These critiques seem to be falling on deaf ears. 
In the presidential election, Catholics voted for Obama, and Hispanic Catholics, who are a growing percentage of U.S. Catholics, gave him around two-thirds of their vote. Since the election, Obama has continued to do as well if not better with Catholics in the polls. 
Nor are Catholics listening to those bishops who have condemned Notre Dame University for inviting the President to speak at its commencement this month. According to a Pew Forum poll, 48 percent of Catholics have not even heard of the controversy. And when asked whether it was right or wrong for Notre Dame to invite Obama to speak and to give him an honorary degree, 50 percent of Catholics said it was right and only 28 percent said it was wrong. 
What is wrong? Why are the bishops not being listened to? 
Many think they lost their credibility because of the sex abuse crisis. Others say it was even earlier when the laity rejected the hierarchy&#039;s opposition to artificial birth control. 
I think part of the problem is that the bishops stopped listening and teaching and started ordering and condemning. With an educated laity it no longer works to simply say, &quot;it is the teaching of the church.&quot; This is the equivalent of a parent shouting, &quot;Because I said so.&quot; 
The bishops must persuade and convince with arguments not by turning up the volume. When they resort to commanding and threatening punishments, people are turned off. Banning speakers, denying Communion, silencing theologians is a sign of weakness not strength. Censorship and violations of academic freedom come across as admissions that their arguments are not convincing and therefore the opposition must be silenced. 
The result is that the sales of books go up after a theologian is condemned. Obama&#039;s Notre Dame speech will be covered by every cable news channels. Even movie producers understand this dynamic, which is why &quot;Angels and Demons&quot; is having its world premier in Rome and is just begging the Vatican to condemn it. 
The bishops are being egged on by Republican activists whose presidential candidate lost the election. There is clearly a conservative conspiracy to do whatever is possible (including lying about ambassadorial candidates) to create conflict between the Catholic Church and the Obama administration. They want the Catholic Church to be the Republican Party at prayer. Some bishops are falling for this. 
But the Vatican is not falling into this trap. It clearly wants to have a positive relationship with Obama. The Pope sent him a congratulatory note after his election, although it is normal Vatican protocol not to do this until after the inauguration. Recently, an article in L&#039;Osservatore Romano stated that the first 100 days of the Obama administration have not confirmed the Catholic Church&#039;s worst fears about radical policy changes in ethical areas. No American bishop has been brave or honest enough to say this. 
The best Vatican journalists John Allen of the National Catholic Reporter and John Thavis of Catholic News Service could find no evidence of an anti-Obama sentiments from the Pope or the Vatican Secretariat of State. The Vatican has had centuries of experience working with governments where they agree and talking to them about those issues where they disagree. 
The bishops who oppose the President&#039;s presence at Notre Dame are going to be embarrassed by the warm welcome he receives from the commencement audience. Every round of applause will be a repudiation of their condemnations. 
The bishops will also be embarrassed when Pope Benedict welcomes President Obama at the Vatican, or are all these people going to tell the Pope that he cannot talk to a pro-choice President?

Thomas J. Reese, S.J., is Senior Fellow at Woodstock Theological Center at Georgetown University.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Memo to Bishops: Most Catholics Aren&#8217;t Listening<br />
THIS CATHOLIC&#8217;S VIEW<br />
By Thomas J. Reese, S.J.<br />
During the 2008 presidential campaign, there was a steady drumbeat of opposition to Barack Obama from some U.S. Catholic bishops, which only increased after his election. But despite the attention these attacks received in the media and on Internet blogs, polls show that the Catholic people are not listening.<br />
He has been criticized: </p>
<p>• for being the most pro-abortion president ever, even though he wants to develop programs that will reduce the number of abortions while keeping it legal under most circumstances (he supports restrictions in the third trimester with an exception for the health of the mother);<br />
• for allowing organizations that do abortions outside the U.S. to receive government funds, even though the funds cannot be used for abortions but only for non-abortion-related activities such as health care and birth control;<br />
• for proposing to revise the Bush regulations dealing with stem cell research, even though the proposed revisions are less radical than many anticipated (no cloning is allowed and only stem cells from IVF embryos that would otherwise be discarded can be used; plus the informed consent rules are tightened);<br />
• for proposing to revise the Bush regulations that allow conscientious objection in health care, even though it is clear from the law that the revised regulations cannot require doctors, nurses or hospitals to perform abortions;<br />
• and for supporting the Freedom of Choice Act, even though everyone in Congress says FOCA is going nowhere (it has not even been introduced in this Congress) and the President has said it is not one of his priorities (which is the equivalent of deep-sixing it).<br />
These critiques seem to be falling on deaf ears.<br />
In the presidential election, Catholics voted for Obama, and Hispanic Catholics, who are a growing percentage of U.S. Catholics, gave him around two-thirds of their vote. Since the election, Obama has continued to do as well if not better with Catholics in the polls.<br />
Nor are Catholics listening to those bishops who have condemned Notre Dame University for inviting the President to speak at its commencement this month. According to a Pew Forum poll, 48 percent of Catholics have not even heard of the controversy. And when asked whether it was right or wrong for Notre Dame to invite Obama to speak and to give him an honorary degree, 50 percent of Catholics said it was right and only 28 percent said it was wrong.<br />
What is wrong? Why are the bishops not being listened to?<br />
Many think they lost their credibility because of the sex abuse crisis. Others say it was even earlier when the laity rejected the hierarchy&#8217;s opposition to artificial birth control.<br />
I think part of the problem is that the bishops stopped listening and teaching and started ordering and condemning. With an educated laity it no longer works to simply say, &#8220;it is the teaching of the church.&#8221; This is the equivalent of a parent shouting, &#8220;Because I said so.&#8221;<br />
The bishops must persuade and convince with arguments not by turning up the volume. When they resort to commanding and threatening punishments, people are turned off. Banning speakers, denying Communion, silencing theologians is a sign of weakness not strength. Censorship and violations of academic freedom come across as admissions that their arguments are not convincing and therefore the opposition must be silenced.<br />
The result is that the sales of books go up after a theologian is condemned. Obama&#8217;s Notre Dame speech will be covered by every cable news channels. Even movie producers understand this dynamic, which is why &#8220;Angels and Demons&#8221; is having its world premier in Rome and is just begging the Vatican to condemn it.<br />
The bishops are being egged on by Republican activists whose presidential candidate lost the election. There is clearly a conservative conspiracy to do whatever is possible (including lying about ambassadorial candidates) to create conflict between the Catholic Church and the Obama administration. They want the Catholic Church to be the Republican Party at prayer. Some bishops are falling for this.<br />
But the Vatican is not falling into this trap. It clearly wants to have a positive relationship with Obama. The Pope sent him a congratulatory note after his election, although it is normal Vatican protocol not to do this until after the inauguration. Recently, an article in L&#8217;Osservatore Romano stated that the first 100 days of the Obama administration have not confirmed the Catholic Church&#8217;s worst fears about radical policy changes in ethical areas. No American bishop has been brave or honest enough to say this.<br />
The best Vatican journalists John Allen of the National Catholic Reporter and John Thavis of Catholic News Service could find no evidence of an anti-Obama sentiments from the Pope or the Vatican Secretariat of State. The Vatican has had centuries of experience working with governments where they agree and talking to them about those issues where they disagree.<br />
The bishops who oppose the President&#8217;s presence at Notre Dame are going to be embarrassed by the warm welcome he receives from the commencement audience. Every round of applause will be a repudiation of their condemnations.<br />
The bishops will also be embarrassed when Pope Benedict welcomes President Obama at the Vatican, or are all these people going to tell the Pope that he cannot talk to a pro-choice President?</p>
<p>Thomas J. Reese, S.J., is Senior Fellow at Woodstock Theological Center at Georgetown University.</p>
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		<title>Di: marco</title>
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		<dc:creator>marco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 15:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dai giornali USA. Obama a luglio sarà in Italia, ma non verrà ricevuto in vaticano. Obama snobba la S. Sede e non si inginocchierà davanti al papa. Per quanto riguarda l&#039; ambasciatore, siccome ne son stati bocciati 3, non ne nominerà più nessuno.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dai giornali USA. Obama a luglio sarà in Italia, ma non verrà ricevuto in vaticano. Obama snobba la S. Sede e non si inginocchierà davanti al papa. Per quanto riguarda l&#8217; ambasciatore, siccome ne son stati bocciati 3, non ne nominerà più nessuno.</p>
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		<title>Di: Obamaluco! &#171; O Possível e O Extraordinário</title>
		<link>http://www.paolorodari.com/2009/05/19/caso-notre-dame-vian-sto-coi-vescovi-usa-ma-il-discorso-di-obama-mi-e-piaciuto/comment-page-1/#comment-4223</link>
		<dc:creator>Obamaluco! &#171; O Possível e O Extraordinário</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] última: Gian Maria Vian, o editor-chefe de L´Osservatore Romano, jornal do Vaticano, explicou ao estudioso sobre o Vaticano, Paulo Rodari, que Obamaborto não é um presidente [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] última: Gian Maria Vian, o editor-chefe de L´Osservatore Romano, jornal do Vaticano, explicou ao estudioso sobre o Vaticano, Paulo Rodari, que Obamaborto não é um presidente [...]</p>
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		<title>Di: Luca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 20:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is true, however, that the offices of the Holy See are replete with middle- and lower-level officials who are enamored of Barack Obama.  Why? In most cases, because they are Europeans who share the typical European Obamaphilia and whose sources of information and analysis are manifestly skewed. On the other hand, no one in a serious position of authority in the Vatican can doubt that the Obama administration poses the gravest challenges to the Holy See’s positions on the life issues since the Clinton administration tried and failed to get abortion-on-demand declared a fundamental international human right. The Obama administration will also be at loggerheads with the Holy See when the defense of marriage rightly understood is contested in international institutions.  Moreover, several officials at very high levels — men I can say with confidence are not in conversation with E. J. Dionne, Amy Sullivan, or Obama administration fronts like Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good — spoke to me last fall of their deep appreciation for the Bush administration’s positions on the life issues, AIDS prevention in Africa, AIDS and malaria relief, and religious freedom. Indeed, one very senior official told me that, at his level, it was understood that no American administration of the immediate future was likely to be as supportive of Holy See positions as the Bush administration had been — and this, despite the obvious and serious disagreement over the administration’s 2003 decision to enforce the resolutions of the United Nations and depose Saddam Hussein by force.  [Again… it is possible to disgree over &quot;what to do about Iraq&quot;.  And the CCC restates that civil authority determines if the conditions for a &quot;just war&quot; have been met.  But Catholics are not free to disagree about the sanctity of life.  That is why Notre Dame’s choice to honor the most aggressively pro-abortion President we have ever seen is seriously wrong.] 

It would, of course, be helpful if the newspaper published by the Holy See did not display a sorry ignorance of recent American history (including the history of the civil-rights movement) and a fideist credulity about the magic of Barack Obama. [Great phrase, George…. &quot;fideist credulity&quot;.] To assume that the pope and his most senior advisers have drunk the Obama Kool-Aid and wish the American bishops would chill out is, however, another story altogether, and not a very credible one — no matter what foolishness finds its way into the pages of L’Osservatore Romano.  [Does anyone seriously believe that this Pope would see Pres. Obama’s position and actions on abortion as acceptable?] 

—George Weigel is Distinguished Senior Fellow at Washington’s Ethics and Public Policy Center, where he holds the William E. Simon Chair in Catholic Studies.

 [le note fra parentesi quadre sono di p. John Zuhlsdorf]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is true, however, that the offices of the Holy See are replete with middle- and lower-level officials who are enamored of Barack Obama.  Why? In most cases, because they are Europeans who share the typical European Obamaphilia and whose sources of information and analysis are manifestly skewed. On the other hand, no one in a serious position of authority in the Vatican can doubt that the Obama administration poses the gravest challenges to the Holy See’s positions on the life issues since the Clinton administration tried and failed to get abortion-on-demand declared a fundamental international human right. The Obama administration will also be at loggerheads with the Holy See when the defense of marriage rightly understood is contested in international institutions.  Moreover, several officials at very high levels — men I can say with confidence are not in conversation with E. J. Dionne, Amy Sullivan, or Obama administration fronts like Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good — spoke to me last fall of their deep appreciation for the Bush administration’s positions on the life issues, AIDS prevention in Africa, AIDS and malaria relief, and religious freedom. Indeed, one very senior official told me that, at his level, it was understood that no American administration of the immediate future was likely to be as supportive of Holy See positions as the Bush administration had been — and this, despite the obvious and serious disagreement over the administration’s 2003 decision to enforce the resolutions of the United Nations and depose Saddam Hussein by force.  [Again… it is possible to disgree over "what to do about Iraq".  And the CCC restates that civil authority determines if the conditions for a "just war" have been met.  But Catholics are not free to disagree about the sanctity of life.  That is why Notre Dame’s choice to honor the most aggressively pro-abortion President we have ever seen is seriously wrong.] </p>
<p>It would, of course, be helpful if the newspaper published by the Holy See did not display a sorry ignorance of recent American history (including the history of the civil-rights movement) and a fideist credulity about the magic of Barack Obama. [Great phrase, George…. "fideist credulity".] To assume that the pope and his most senior advisers have drunk the Obama Kool-Aid and wish the American bishops would chill out is, however, another story altogether, and not a very credible one — no matter what foolishness finds its way into the pages of L’Osservatore Romano.  [Does anyone seriously believe that this Pope would see Pres. Obama’s position and actions on abortion as acceptable?] </p>
<p>—George Weigel is Distinguished Senior Fellow at Washington’s Ethics and Public Policy Center, where he holds the William E. Simon Chair in Catholic Studies.</p>
<p> [le note fra parentesi quadre sono di p. John Zuhlsdorf]</p>
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		<title>Di: montserrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>montserrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 16:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ma insomma cosa pretendete da Vian? A lui e&#039; stato semplicemente chiesto di dirigere un giornale e lo sta facendo nel migliore dei modi. Non puo&#039; fare battaglie politiche in nome di nobilissimi ideali, che certamente anche lui condivide. E non puo&#039; essere accusato per questo di progressismo o altro; e&#039; solo e semplicemente molto equilibrato in quello che fa e che dice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ma insomma cosa pretendete da Vian? A lui e&#8217; stato semplicemente chiesto di dirigere un giornale e lo sta facendo nel migliore dei modi. Non puo&#8217; fare battaglie politiche in nome di nobilissimi ideali, che certamente anche lui condivide. E non puo&#8217; essere accusato per questo di progressismo o altro; e&#8217; solo e semplicemente molto equilibrato in quello che fa e che dice.</p>
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		<title>Di: Editor do jornal do Vaticano diz que “Obama não é pró-aborto”. &#171; Fratres in Unum.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Editor do jornal do Vaticano diz que “Obama não é pró-aborto”. &#171; Fratres in Unum.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 15:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Na entrevista com Rodari, o Editor chefe Gian Maria Vian discutiu seus pensamentos sobre o Presidente Obama na Universidade Notre Dame. “Obama não aborreceu o mundo,” disse ele. “Seu discurso em Notre Dame foi respeitoso com relação a todas as posições. Ele tentou se envolver no debate fugindo de toda posição ideológica e de toda “mentalidade de confronto.” É nesse sentido que seu discurso deve ser avaliado.” [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Na entrevista com Rodari, o Editor chefe Gian Maria Vian discutiu seus pensamentos sobre o Presidente Obama na Universidade Notre Dame. “Obama não aborreceu o mundo,” disse ele. “Seu discurso em Notre Dame foi respeitoso com relação a todas as posições. Ele tentou se envolver no debate fugindo de toda posição ideológica e de toda “mentalidade de confronto.” É nesse sentido que seu discurso deve ser avaliado.” [...]</p>
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		<title>Di: Jenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 13:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>president Obama not pro-abortion? What are you smoking?

Within his first few days in Office, president Obama, by reversing the Mexico City Policy, _directly facilitated_ abortions outside the United States. Look it up: Mexico City Policy. Also look at his votes on the Born Alive Infant Protection Act in Illinois and in the U.S. Senate.

Your assertion fails to pass the laugh test.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>president Obama not pro-abortion? What are you smoking?</p>
<p>Within his first few days in Office, president Obama, by reversing the Mexico City Policy, _directly facilitated_ abortions outside the United States. Look it up: Mexico City Policy. Also look at his votes on the Born Alive Infant Protection Act in Illinois and in the U.S. Senate.</p>
<p>Your assertion fails to pass the laugh test.</p>
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		<title>Di: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 17:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gian Maria Vian, I hope you can read english.  You COULD NOT BE MORE wrong on your analysis of Barack Obama and his pro-abortion stance.  You are writing a long distance away from the U.S. shoreline and are speaking from what you cannot see and do not know.  He definitely is a pro-abortion president.  It is obvious you have not done a thorough background check on this man and his track record of voting for pro-death in the Illinois legislation.  There is no way you could have checked to notice the pro-death decisions he has already made as president and the pro-death decisions he is threatening to execute.   Don’t let the “smoke of Satan” cloud your vision from the truth about  Barack Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gian Maria Vian, I hope you can read english.  You COULD NOT BE MORE wrong on your analysis of Barack Obama and his pro-abortion stance.  You are writing a long distance away from the U.S. shoreline and are speaking from what you cannot see and do not know.  He definitely is a pro-abortion president.  It is obvious you have not done a thorough background check on this man and his track record of voting for pro-death in the Illinois legislation.  There is no way you could have checked to notice the pro-death decisions he has already made as president and the pro-death decisions he is threatening to execute.   Don’t let the “smoke of Satan” cloud your vision from the truth about  Barack Obama.</p>
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		<title>Di: raffaele savigni</title>
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		<dc:creator>raffaele savigni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 17:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A me invece l&#039;&quot;Ossevatore romano&quot; di Vian piace, più di quello (piuttosto scialbo) delò direttore precedente.E trovo ridicolo definirlo &quot;di sinistra&quot;: ha dato ampio spazio, sul giornale, ai &quot;teocon&quot;. 
Qualcuno ha nostalgia di Bush? Io no. Vedo invece che &quot;Libero&quot; prppugna un&#039;alleanza Berlusconi-Putin (ma che bel democratico, questo Putin!) e definisce &quot;Giuda&quot; Obama solo perchè non si prostra ai piedi del politicante che oggi ci governa (ma Che bel cristiano!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A me invece l&#8217;&#8221;Ossevatore romano&#8221; di Vian piace, più di quello (piuttosto scialbo) delò direttore precedente.E trovo ridicolo definirlo &#8220;di sinistra&#8221;: ha dato ampio spazio, sul giornale, ai &#8220;teocon&#8221;.<br />
Qualcuno ha nostalgia di Bush? Io no. Vedo invece che &#8220;Libero&#8221; prppugna un&#8217;alleanza Berlusconi-Putin (ma che bel democratico, questo Putin!) e definisce &#8220;Giuda&#8221; Obama solo perchè non si prostra ai piedi del politicante che oggi ci governa (ma Che bel cristiano!).</p>
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